Public Service Annoucement: "+1" Carry vs. Condition 1 Carry.

I keep seeing this pop up on forums and YouTube and I think there must be an  error somewhere.

I don't know is this is the new "clip = magazine" for 2010 or what, but it's starting to piss me off.


Condition 1: Magazine inserted, round in chamber (safety on if applicable)

+1: A firearm in condition 1, and another round inserted into the mag to make up for the chambered round.

You see this term in reference to a guns capacity, like 8+1, or 15+1. This is the magazine capacity +1 round in the chamber.

So yes, a +1 gun is condition 1, but a condition 1 gun does not always mean +1.


Spread the word.

CLIMB OUT OF YOUR HOLES PEOPLE!

Had another guy drop the "In Iowa a loaded magazine is considered a firearm" line tonight at the weekly bullseye match. I need to make a sign, or stickers or something addressing this myth and start posting them all over town. Maybe some nifty T-shirts or something.

On a happy note, I shot a 531-4X tonight which is now my second highest score shooting bullseye.

Go me.
Date                 Score             X Count

2-Nov	490	N/A
9-Nov	491	N/A
16-Nov	489	N/A
25-Nov	532	14
2-Dec	529	7
16-Dec	491	4
23-Dec	520	7
1/6/2010	502	4
1/13/2010	521	6
1/20/2010	512	6
1/27/2010	531	4

Cutting down on the caffeine seems to be helping.

The Let Down of the Century.

Bushmaster ACR

After seeing this vid, I don't think there's anything else to add other than I love my Noveske.

Language advisory: It get's pretty rough.

Instructors are fallible too.

So I took my required class in order to obtain my Iowa Permit to Carry Weapons (PTCW) and while the overall class was ok, there were several things that bothered me.

First off, the content was more opinion based than fact based  which resulted in issues two and three.

Issue Two: When a student asked something about accidentally showing a concealed firearm, the instructor supplied the following answer: "Your gun must be concealed at all times, this is a concealed weapons permit" Well, that was about as incorrect as it gets. Here in Iowa, you can open carry without a permit outside of incorporated limits and if you have a PERMIT TO CARRY WEAPONS, you may open carry as IA Code states the following:

A Follow Up to Firearms Dogma, Hype, Regurgitation, and Explanation.

This is Iowa specific, but since I've moved here I kept hearing that if you don't have a permit that you can't have pistol magazines loaded in your possession while on the road etc. and some have even uttered the most ridiculous thing...that they were considered "firearms". I had never really paid much mind to this as since moving here to Iowa we haven't gotten our permits to carry weapons, and I just load my mags at the range anyway. But as I'm scheduled to take my class this month I started brushing up on Iowa law and while visiting IowaCarry.org came across a thread that made mention of the mag issue. I asked what section of Iowa code addresses this issue as I had not seen any mention of loaded magazines in the section directly related to firearms and the carrying of weapons, as it is the section of IA Code that addresses this "issue" is Title XI Natural Resources, Subtitle 6, Chapter 483A, FISHING AND HUNTING LICENSES, CONTRABAND, AND GUNS.


483A.36 Manner of conveyance.

No person, except as permitted by law, shall have or carry a gun in or on a vehicle on a public highway, unless the gun is taken down or totally contained in a securely fastened case, and its barrels and magazines are unloaded.

[C24, 27, 31, §1772; C35, §1794-e21; C39, §1794.104; C46, 50, 54, 58, 62, 66, §110.23; C71, 73, 75, 77, §110.24; C79, 81, §110.36]

86 Acts, ch 1240, §10

C93, §483A.36

For applicable scheduled fine, see §805.8B, subsection 3, paragraph r

OK, so I can see where people would get the idea that you can't have magazines loaded, but here's the problem.


483A.35 "Gun" defined.

The word "gun" as used in this chapter shall include every kind of a gun or rifle, except a revolver or pistol, and shall include those provided with pistol mountings which are designed to shoot shot cartridges.

[C31, §1772-c1; C35, §1794-e20; C39, §1794.103; C46, 50, 54, 58, 62, 66, §110.22; C71, 73, 75, 77, §110.23; C79, 81, §110.35]C93, §483A.35


So I don't know where people are getting this crap about driving to and from the range with loaded pistol mags being a no no. This code is under the hunting and fishing section of the law and they probably just don't want people driving around with their bird guns loaded, but as they do mention long guns, to be on the safe side keep your mags and chambers empty if taking long guns to the range.


Sooooo...


Contrary to popular belief, you CAN have your pistol magazines loaded while in transit, if you do get stopped and they charge you with a violation of 483A.36 (For violations of section 483A.36 relating to the conveyance of guns: (1) For conveying an assembled, unloaded gun, the scheduled fine is twenty-five dollars. (2) For conveying a loaded gun, the scheduled fine is fifty dollars) I suggest that you fight the charge as the law clearly states that it does not apply to pistols or revolvers.


Having a permit to carry weapons should negate all this babble anyhow, but it's just nice to know the FACTS about the law and hopefully I can now better dispel this BS when it's heard.
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ADDED 2-20-11

The above law regarding the transport of long guns has changed in the 2010 session, you can not transport long guns that have detachable magazines with the magazines loaded provided they are not attached to the long gun.

This is the newly worded code:

483A.36 Manner of conveyance.

A person, except as permitted by law, shall not have or carry a gun in or on a vehicle on a public highway, unless the gun is taken down or totally contained in a securely fastened case, and its barrels and attached magazines are unloaded.

[C24, 27, 31, §1772; C35, §1794-e21; C39, §1794.104; C46, 50, 54, 58, 62, 66, §110.23; C71, 73, 75, 77, §110.24; C79, 81, §110.36]

86 Acts, ch 1240, §10

C93, §483A.36

2010 Acts, ch 1113, §1

For applicable scheduled fine, see §805.8B, subsection 3, paragraph q

Section amended

Enjoy!

Wolf Creek IDPA October/Nov Macth

Just some video from one of the IDPA matches I've shot put together by Scott, you can see other IDPA and USPSA shoots on his Youtube page.